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Anonymous
InactiveDecember 20, 2017 at 11:38 pmPost count: 42Proposed discussion:
The West faces a challenge that is unique to our time. It is a civilization ending challenge that cannot be failed if we are to survive. Observers of this challenge generally agree on the following points
– The challenge is one of culture/values
– The pivotal point is family and gender relations
– Feminism is a major player but perhaps not the architect
– There is “something” that benefits from
a) people finding happiness away from the traditional family
b) females finding independence in neither family nor themselves, rather through gov’t
c) the worship of ‘vulnerable’ people and diversity (such as; young women, refugees, non-western minorities)
d) writing personal failures off as ‘being the victim of structural violence’ rather than taking personal responsibility for for your action and learning from them
e) a preference of blaming white males for everything that is wrong with the world rather than understanding the reasons behind our historical choicesMaybe this is an illusion. Maybe there is a simple explanation such as ‘consumerism’ or ‘the government buying our votes’. But maybe there is something more sinister.
Look forward to seeing you on the 6th.
Anonymous
InactiveDecember 26, 2017 at 6:46 amPost count: 37Really good topic, this. Seeing as I won’t be there I’ll put my 3 cents in.
Discussions on our culture are far more deeper and enlightening than mere politics. In politics, there are things you can’t say. Ideas of good and evil can’t exist: there’s only left versus right, or the sacrosanct “market-place of ideas” in which there is no good or bad idea (which is nothing more than a cover for evil). In polite society, political discourse appears to be limited to, as I like to say, ‘tinkering around the edges’. Meanwhile, the very foundations of our civilisation are literally crumbling away. This is yet one more reason behind the direction our civilisation has taken – the notion that ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are quaint beliefs from more rudimentary and superstitious eras. “Surely in our times, we are more enlightened than they!” And to quote someone else: ‘The devil’s finest trick is persuading you that he doesn’t exist’ (not from Scripture, but Baudelaire). So for that reason, you’ll never really get to the crux of our Problem if you only talk politics.
I’d be curious to know what the more liberal members of our group think about this. afterliberalism, I suppose this will hark back to previous discussions we’ve had in the past on whether morality can exist without God. I’m afraid my interpretation is rather boring and predictable: simply, there is a plan God has laid out for the optimal functioning of society. The closer society sticks to that plan, the more successful it is. The further it strays, the more it suffer. All the things we are seeing – feminism, transgenderism, etc, are mere symptoms of a society which has no belief in God, and thus no anchor. They are not causes, per se.
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